Crab Grass Argument: won't go away

Regarding a prior blog entry, see below a section from an interesting activist group fostering the return to the original grand jury concepts, which had been a citizens' tool, not a charade controlled by the state.

I have to say before getting a history lesson, I did not grok the origins of the Grand Jury system and was dismissive of what it has become. It is a joke, now.

Of course, I understand that some readers will just shoot the messenger, the grand jury organization, which is flipping out about no one examining Mr. Obama's credentials. In that way it is easy to avoid the message, but that does not mean the message is going away.

There are some half dozen cases working their way through various systems regarding Mr. Obama's right to be president and the failure of many to investigate that right. A recent Court ordered the Defendants, including Mr. Cheney, lest you think this is a right wing conspiracy, to get proper legal representation and come back, last week, as they showed up with a deputy attorney general. They are all looking for free legal help paid for by you.

I wrote to the attorney for the Plaintiff and suggested the United States is not the correct defense team for people who are accused of subverting the United States, namely Congressional leaders responsible for looking into legitimacy. He agreed and and noted that it is part of the action. A perfect example of impropriety and a conflict of interest. If you don't think so, just imagine Bush were president - now you will get it.

The web page doesn't give any source, but says Obama has spent over a million dollars, thusfar, to avoid producing a certificate of birth. Whatever the amount, it is significant.

Don't jump to conclusions that this is settled, read the section below. Hawaii won't accept its own Certification of Birth as proof of birth in Hawaii.

Of course fighting and avoidance is a legal right, but one wonders why refuse to produce a simple piece of paper? Obama was in Hawaii before the election and could have driven to the proper office to get a copy of the actual certificate, if he didn't have one.

An interesting piece is below. I did not use red and only use bold for a special highlight or name. I guess I am from another era. To me all that flamboyant typography makes you look crazy.

A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate (A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth)… [notice the difference in the words "certification" and "certificate"] ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.

A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth - the document that Team Obama produced - is a document that essentially proves that you exist and Barack Hussein Obama most certainly EXISTS - that point is not in dispute.

A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) - on the other hand contains more information. It gives the specific location of your birth, the hospital, the time of birth, the attending physician etc.

Bottom line, a Certification of Live Birth does not by any stretch of the imagination meet the Constitution requirement for proof of “natural born citizenship.”

For proof, Obama must submit a BIRTH CERTIFICATE showing he was born of a father and mother in the United States and that his parents were BOTH US Citizens. Everyone is now aware of the fact that Barrack Obama’s father was NOT a United States Citizen. {I am not sure this is correct re both parents}

For purposes of illustration see the images below. The first image is the CERTIFICATION of Live Birth that Team Obama released and the next image is an example of an actual CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) from the State of Hawaii from approximately the same time that Obama was born.

The image of Mr. Obama's certification would not publish. If you want to see it, again, click on the "interesting" organization, above. Here is the second image, the underlying certificate.

Why is this important? Stated again, a Certification is just a computer printout that says Obama exits. It is NOT a Certificate of Live Birth (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) that is considered in Hawaii to be the TRUE Certificate. The Certificate of Live Birth specifically answers questions like WHERE were the father and mother born? What were the parents’ residences at time of birth? In other words, what were the legal statuses of the parents? Were they US Citizens? We know that the father was NOT a US Citizen.

If you think a Certification is a legal document then ask yourself why the State of Hawaii won’t even accept it? That’s right!

Example: The State of Hawaii maintains programs to encourage property ownership for native Hawaiians. In order to qualify for this you must process an application through Hawaii Department of Home Lands. The following is a guideline:

DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout).

If the State of Hawaii DOES NOT accept its own CERTIFICATION of Live Birth as proof that an individual was actually born in Hawaii, why should we? If Hawaii REQUIRES an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE , WHY SHOULDN’T WE?

Off hand, one would think the data in the certificate would pop into the certification, but Hawaii doesn't think so. It is a puzzle easily remedied.

There is more apparently about an expert proving forgery and the use of photoshop, but we all have to work.